Money Quote:

“I go back to the Gospels a lot . . .the more I encounter Jesus in the Gospels I encounter someone who is certainly not afraid of conflict and not afraid of tension because He saw it as an opportunity for growth.” –Kristin Bird

Episode Summary: Deacon Keith, Executive Director of M3 Ministries, and Kristin Bird, Executive Director of Burning Hearts Disciples, and Rachel Espinoza, Editor and Liturgical Training Consultant at LTP, explore the reality of conflict within parish life and discuss ways to navigate through it and strategies for creating an environment for healthy, instructive conflict.

Key Topics:  

Catchup (0:56)

Vatican Website Hacked (6:55)

Introduction to the Topic of Conflict (11:30)

Conflict in Parish Life (13:13)

Conflict as Misalignment of Expectations (15:17)

Healthy vs Unhealthy Conflict (16:54)

Examples of Healthy Conflict (29:40)

Self Knowledge & Team Awareness as Tools for Healthy Conflict (39:42)

Creating Environments for Healthy Conflict (50:06)

Need to Talk?

If you have an ongoing conflict at your parish that you would like to talk to us about, or if you have questions about evangelization or parish renewal, just reach out to us:

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Resources Mentioned*

Clifton Strength Finders

5 Dysfunctions of a Team (Video)

Dare to Lead by Brene Brown

Radical Candor by Kim Scott

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